Subject: I attended Faire in garb yesterday (long delurk)
From: BernadetteTS
I was out to the Ohio Renassaince Faire yesterday in female clothes. It is a wonderful thing to do. Most of the time I participate in the Society for Creative Anachronisms. There is a support group for GLBT medievil reenactors known as Clan Bluefeather www.bluefeather.com/
Bernadette
From: "fluffynstu...
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:14:35 -0700
Hi and Welcome to AFR!
I'm glad you've finally crawled down from the lurkers loft to post. This is a pretty nice, if eclectic, group of people. I'm happy to say there are many here I enjoy trading posts with, and a few that have become good friends off line in real life.
It sounds like you really enjoyed your time at faire yesterday. What a great experience. I'm glad you were treated with the courtesy and respect you deserve. I'm afraid I can't help direct you in expanding your role within faire out in Kansas. I perform and attend faires in CA, and I don't have a clue how they work things out there. I can give you the link to the wenches guild, however. It's a fun, bawdy group of people. It's a social guild. Good luck with your search, and enjoy!
http://www.wench.org/
Kerry =)
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aka Kate Montgomery
San Luis Obispo Peasant Guild
The Fire of the Shire~ wink
She who will NOT eat pizza with peasants.
rengeek
I.W.G. #1465
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http://www.best1.net/~peasants/
From: bodaciouswe... (Melissa)
>So what to be? That is now the question.
be yourself.
From what you've said, you dress in mundane drag quite often, yet you sport the beard. It doesn't sound like you are trying to "pass" as a woman. So doing drag in period garb shouldn't really be any different.
However, if you are looking for some sort of explaination for why you are dressed as you are, my first suggestion would be to use a variation of however you normally respond to questions when dressed in 'everyday' drag.
If you're trying to create a persona or do the faire as more of a playtron, a few popped into my head. First, you could be dressed in ladies' clothing because your house burned down, are wearing your sister/wife/maid's clothes while you shop for new clothes here at the faire. Or, you're dressed like that because you were sporting with a Lord's fair maiden and her jealousy husband came home. You donned the first thing at hand and escaped thru an open window, him hot on your heels. (don't know whether this would work, based on your sexual preferences). Let's see... if asked about your beard, you could gasp in shock, look offended and cry "Beard? What beard? I'll have you know this is the latest in facial warmers. It's all the rage amongst the ladies in court in France!" Or, as you suggested, you could claim to be a player at the theater. Again, if the beard is commented upon, you could look rather puzzled and exclaim "Zounds! Now I know why the audience laughs and hisses when I appear as the fair Juliet." Perhaps you lost a bet to a friend and must wear his sister's clothing for a week. Maybe you are an escaped criminal, hiding in those clothes before the medevial/Renaissance equivilant of the sheriff finds you.
Okay, before this becomes a book, I will stop here. You see, the possibilities for a persona based explaination are endless. Now if only I could figure out my OWN persona as easily as I can spitball ideas for others.
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Melissa,
Wet, Wild, Wicked, Wanton wench
IWG #1477
Applicant to the Order of the Rampant Clue Stick
"When choosing between two evils I always like to take the one I've never tried before." Mae West
From: warfli...(R.L.Warflight)
In article <XPNk7.596$B%3.124... "Butterfly Bill" writes:
>I was encouraged earlier in the morning by the example of the hammered dulcimer player for Minstrosity, who performed in an Irish woman's outfit with a green bodice and a plaid shawl over his shoulder. (Probably I should say her, I gathered from the liner notes of their CD that this person is transexual and transitioned.)
That would be Josephine, and no fyner, nor generous a lady you will find elsewhere!
I only know her from corespondance, and a rather large favor she did for me a while back.... no fyner a friend could be made.
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: warfli... (R.L.Warflight)
In article <XPNk7.596$B%3.124... "Butterfly Bill" writes:
>Now maybe I could say I was an actor at the Globe Theater. In Shakespeare's time, all roles, male or female, were performed by men. But I might would have to shave off my beard, and my mundane persona wants to keep it for its gender bending value. So what to be? That is now the question.
hehehehehe
Don't shave the beard! Tell people that, be that character, and keep the beard..... think how that would add to the character!
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: warfli...(R.L.Warflight)
In article <XPNk7.596$B%3.124... "Butterfly Bill" writes:
>Well, I had an absolute blast swimming in the reactions of other people as I stepped out, some called me milord, some called me milady, one called me milady sir, some said they didn't quite know what to call me. When I got asked which, I answered, whichever they wanted.
Heh... that's when you tell them to call you anything they want, just don't call you late for dinner!
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: warfli... (R.L.Warflight)
In article <XPNk7.596$B%3.124... "Butterfly Bill" writes:
>But I am still having trouble determining just what role I can play in this movie. I could dress in many of the male outfits, which in the mundane world would be perceived as dresses with leggings beneath. But I like the women's outfits more, maybe because of the way I have been with female clothes for years, maybe because they are a wee bit more comfortable. I could wear kilts, but I hate scratchy wool; I'd have to wear a non-period nylon slip under one. No, it was just plain more fun in Elizabethan drag today; anything else will be a letdown from now on.
Then that's what you should wear. Have fun, and make a faire persona out of it! Make a back story, and enjoy!
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: "Stosh d' Gypsy"
congratulations, and welcome!! here, have a mazer o'mead.. hey, somebody, I've distracted the lady, quick pounce..
--
Willardfitch
Stosh d'Gypsy
IBRSC #373
From: "Butterfly Bill"
"Melissa" > However, if you are looking for some sort of explaination for why you are dressed as you are, my first suggestion would be to use a variation of however you normally respond to questions when dressed in 'everyday' drag.
My universal answer for all occasions is, because I like to. If they ask further, I'll mention the comfort, both the coolness in hot weather and the warmth in cold (yes, it does work both ways), the lack of anything tight around my waist, the greater variety in colors and patterns available, the extremely positive reactions I sometimes get, etc. etc. > Let's see... if asked about your beard, you could gasp in shock, look offended and cry "Beard? What beard? I'll have you know this is the latest in facial warmers. It's all the rage amongst the ladies in court in France!" Or, as you suggested, you could claim to be a player at the theater. Again, if the beard is commented upon, you could look rather puzzled and exclaim "Zounds! Now I know why the audience laughs and hisses when I appear as the fair Juliet."
These are the two best. I want it to be that I am doing it deliberately and proudly, not mistakenly or shamefully. -Butterfly Bill From: "Butterfly Bill"
fluffynstu... wrote:
> sounds like you really enjoyed your time at faire yesterday. What a great experience. I'm glad you were treated with the courtesy and respect you deserve. I'm afraid I can't help direct you in expanding your role within faire out in Kansas. I perform and attend faires in CA, and I don't have a clue how they work things out there. I can give you the link to the wenches guild, however. It's a fun, bawdy group of people. It's a social guild. Good luck with your search, and enjoy!
I'm fixing to load the elephants and move to Asheville, NC, in the I hope not too distant future. I think it might be a singular honor to be a wench. Do I get all the privileges (and of course the responsibilities)?
-Butterfly Bill
From: metsfan...
Warflight,
In case no one has told you today, you, Sir, are just tooooooo cool!
From: "Kelly B"
Bill and Melissa, you both have wonderfully creative minds!!
That being said, I think that the play actor is the best and I love Melissa's response!!
I am so glad you enjoyed your first time out as a wenchly maid! I just finished a wenches outfit and am very eager to try it out Sunday. While I doubt I will get the varied and interesting responses you did, I hope to get the same feeling!!
Kelly
siglineless, as well!
From: "South Kiru"
> (It also has not possibly but definitely the longest sig files in Usenetdom.)
And just think... 2 months ago I was upset because I had nothing to put in my sig... and look at it now! :)
> I like the way you treat each other and the easy way you share your feelings, and I feel this same vibe interacting with you all in real (Faire) life.
ah... And this is why I'm a rennie. My cousin and I were just discussing that this weekend as we realized that we've been to no shows at all this season (except 2 that I took one of our afr'ers to, and this was our 3rd week into the season), and we just make our rounds saying hi to all of our friends, then head down to the pottery shop to spin wool and read (and sometimes in her case- to play with her new tarot deck), and then up to the pub for a bit of wine and to talk. All things that we could be doing outside of faire.... And yet can't bring ourselves to miss a single day. Faire is home, and family, and I wouldn't miss a minute of it. :)
snip the rest
Welcome to our addiction. :) Once you've garbed, you'll never go back. I personally love to see men running around in women's clothes- so this post makes me particularly happy. :) Not to mention that your particular set of garb sounds right cute! I definitely do think that the whole "I'm an actor bit" is the perfect excuse for having a beard (and anything else that people are curious about)- actor's get away with anything and everything without being questioned too deeply. :) Ok, I'm half asleep (long day with the niece and nephew) so I won't ramble anymore... but "well come" and "huzzah"!
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Hellen Yrth- Wench of Contradictions
Evil Taunter to the Goddess of Freaks
Wench #1604
Toad Mistress #13
29.9% faire folk pure
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"Hi! I'm Hellen, this is my sister Dany, and this is my other sister Dani."
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From: "Saffron"
Huzzah, and Welcome!
Make yourself at home! Glad to have you out of lurking, and amongst all of us here. I couldn't find anything online about Rose Knots, I'll keep my eye out. Might need to contact Hearts Delight. I know they are located in Ventura, California. I looked for them, but their website, has since been removed from online. I got my first bodice from them also..= ) That seems a long time ago now.
And did you say you have Elephants? Are we talking the big Elephants? Grey, Asian in style? Saffy LOVES Elephants! LOVES THEM!
Blessings, and Many Many Welcomes!
Saffron
From: ye Knotte Master
> P.S. Is there on the web an explanation of how to tie the rose knot, preferably with pictures? I only saw it done once, and there are a few parts missing in my memory.
This becomes interesting - I suspect that the knot must have a more standard name, because the only rose knots I know are tied with a minimum of four lines, and would not be very useful as a clothing tie (would take too long to tie and untie).
If you do find a picture of the knot, I'd like to see a copy!
(and welcome to our little mad play area, Bill!)
Tim
Tim Rightbender/Moray MacDóbhran/Knotty MacFingers MacDude, ye Knotte Master (AKA Tim Russell); Master of knotty roses & ropes, St. Cuthbert's Guilde RPFS; @}---}--- Bard #36 - Scaenum quis requirit?; Wizard #29; Bud, QM of the Glorious Peasant Militia, Bearer of Camaraderie, Cider & Bravado; KnotteMaster for the Wylde Guilde; DNRC SrVPo/Abrv&ct.; CAPASPWMULD of F.A.I.R.I.E.; Ghàidhlig Club (Scot) of AFR; Renderer of Rugosas of Rope, Ornamenter of Arachne, One Who Knows Lace Can Be Knaughty or Knice, Sometimes Both; Grand Prior, Ordo Dogbertus Sanctus - "Exite! Vos diaboli stupiditatis!" (Danke Rachel!); Sr. Cybernetic Entomologist; International Guilde of Knotte Tyers; Knottus Creditcheckus of Sarcastica, He who slakes the Sarcastic thirst. email:yeknottemas... - lose the SNARL (The Borg are amateurs)
From: warfli...(R.L.Warflight)
In article <20010903194532.20449.00004... metsfan... (Metsfanmel) writes:
>Warflight,
> In case no one has told you today, you, Sir, are just tooooooo cool!
Oh crap.... what did I do this time, and will it get me in trouble??
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: bodaciouswe...(Melissa)
Warflight doth question:
> Oh crap.... what did I do this time, and will it get me in trouble??
Nothing good Sir, save be yourself.
The Mets Fan's alter ego,
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Melissa,
W.W.W. wanton wench
IWG #1477
Order of the Rampant Clue Stick
She who waves the padded spoon to WHACK you on the head!
"When choosing between two evils I always like to take the one I've never tried before." Mae West
From: Danicia de Lontra
WELCOME! This is the best community out there, will so many different peoples. Different races, religions (although we try to avoid this topic unless it's historical in nature. ::grin::) and sexes. Most everyone, if not open to differences, at least, comes together because of this one love.
For the most part, everyone is repectful of each other....as you have mentioned. People live, love and die on this NG....a very unique place.
I wish I had the rose knot thingy, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about. ::Giggle:::
So...welcome!!! And :::hotpinkhugs&kisses::::
dani
Danicia de Lontra, Queen of AssuageDOM
IWG #307, MCL, Local Madame, MDRF-Local #42 http://www.mdrfwench.org
Bard #11, Merc #404.."Merc Not Found"
AIM: Gothywench, ICQ #5596090 http://www.danicia.com
My AFR BIO Page: http://www.danicia.com/afrbioring.htm
From: SnowCat
Butterfly Bill wrote:
> I'm fixing to load the elephants and move to Asheville, NC, in the I hope not too distant future. I think it might be a singular honor to be a wench. Do I get all the privileges (and of course the responsibilities)?
Bill - Yes you are more than welcome to the guild, we do have male members. You will need to pass a test of Wench skills, by a board of 3 Madames.
guys joining the Wenches Guilde
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&selm=19990524224445.24...
Cross Dressing @ Faire
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3273143194d&hl=en&safe=off&sel...
--
SnowCat
The Ice Wench
Wench #48 Madame Cum Laude
"too many years i've cried for you, it's always the same
wake up in the rain, head in pain, hung in shame
a different name, same old game, love in vain" The Cure
IDIC
From: Danicia de Lontra
SnowCat says...
>Bill - Yes you are more than welcome to the guild, we do have male members. You will need to pass a test of Wench skills, by a board of 3 Madames.
Indeedy....I have two male members in Local #42 Chapter. ::smile::
One that always dresses as a girl, and one who doesn't. Well, he does sometimes, but it's always more comic (on purpose) for specific wenchings.
Email me if you would like hints. ::smile::
Dani, Madame of Local #42:
http://www.mdrfwench.org
Danicia de Lontra, Queen of AssuageDOM
IWG #307, MCL, Local Madame, MDRF-Local #42 http://www.mdrfwench.org
Bard #11, Merc #404.."Merc Not Found"
AIM: Gothywench, ICQ #5596090 http://www.danicia.com
My AFR BIO Page: http://www.danicia.com/afrbioring.htm
From: "John W. Kennedy"
Butterfly Bill wrote:
> Now maybe I could say I was an actor at the Globe Theater. In Shakespeare's time, all roles, male or female, were performed by men. But I might would have to shave off my beard, and my mundane persona wants to keep it for its gender bending value. So what to be? That is now the question.
Errr.... Not men. Pre-pubescent boys. If you can't do the voice, be prepared to be caught out. (Your choice, of course -- but you should know what you're getting into.)
--
John W. Kennedy
(Working from my laptop)
From: zski
Butterfly Bill wrote:
> . I was encouraged earlier in the morning by the example of the hammered dulcimer player for Minstrosity, who performed in an Irish woman's outfit with a green bodice and a plaid shawl over his shoulder. (Probably I should say her, I gathered from the liner notes of their CD that this person is transexual and transitioned.)
Yep, Josie is transgendered. Loved your new outfit (though some of the members of Queen Anne's Lace and I really liked the beadwork at the collar of the dress you first came in wearing.
Glad you had fun and felt welcome. You looked to be having a great time learning to belly dance, and hope you like the CD!
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Wendy Z Chicago IL (moo)
Wench Wear Costumes http://pages.ripco.net/~zski
Minstrosity Wench #525
"Though she be but little, she is fierce"
"I'm not short - I'm concentrated!"
It's the little ones you have to watch out for.....
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From: "Butterfly Bill"
"SnowCat" > Bill - Yes you are more than welcome to the guild, we do have male members. You will need to pass a test of Wench skills, by a board of 3 Madames. Pray tell, what be the nature of these skills? (Or is it something where if I have to ask, I will never know?) Where might these Madames be found? (And is there an explanation of these ranks on the web?) -Butterfly Bill From: nstei...(Russ)
As a fellow newie to AFR ::clearsthroat::
POUNCE G POUNCE G POUNCE GG POUNCE POUNCE
::panting:: WELCOME!
If you are ever at Bristol, look me up, be glad to buy you a mead.
Duncan RenMerc#nnn,Bard#293. BRF
57.5% FaireFolk corrupt
England forever, and Scotland for just a wee bit more!
Border, like highlander blood is thicker than charters
http://24.10.209.5/duncan
From: Danicia de Lontra
Butterfly Bill says...
>Pray tell, what be the nature of these skills? (Or is it something where if I have to ask, I will never know?) Where might these Madames be found? (And is there an explanation of these ranks on the web?)
Hi Bill,
Dani again. Visit www.wench.org
There are a few Local chapters of the Wench's Guild out there.....and it depends on what your home faire is. I know you attended KCRF, but is that your home faire?
Thanks!
Dani
Danicia de Lontra, Queen of AssuageDOM
IWG #307, MCL, Local Madame, MDRF-Local #42 http://www.mdrfwench.org
Bard #11, Merc #404.."Merc Not Found"
AIM: Gothywench, ICQ #5596090 http://www.danicia.com
My AFR BIO Page: http://www.danicia.com/afrbioring.htm
From: "Butterfly Bill"
> There are a few Local chapters of the Wench's Guild out there.....and it depends on what your home faire is. I know you attended KCRF, but is that your home faire?
That it has been, but soon I hope it to be one near Asheville, NC. The Carolina faire looks good. Cool Autumn weather! Yum yum.
-BB
From: metalli...(k c)
Danicia wrote:
> Indeedy....I have two male members in Local #42 Chapter. ::smile::
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Two male _members_, eh? Oh, my... And to think previously I just admired you for your color sense....
Kay C.
Please reply to: metallikay at hotmail dot com
From: metalli...(k c)
Butterfly Bill,
Congratulations! Hope you enjoy your garb & continue having a great time. Cross dressing at faire, both by CD & TS, is not that uncommon. I've seen a few at TRF/Hawkwood/Scarby over the years. Heck, I even sewed a corset for a male friend for faire. You are sooo right about having difficulty with a corset designed for a woman fitting on a GM. (Do a search for Axfords--beautiful corsets, even for men, made in England. Lovely!) Most other costumed people will not even look askance at you. I venture to say that if anyone does, you'll probably have a dozen sword carrying blokes ready to defend your honor. And half will probably be female! :-)
Kay C.
Please reply to: metallikay at hotmail dot com
From: "Butterfly Bill"
> As a fellow newie to AFR ::clearsthroat::
> POUNCE G POUNCE G POUNCE GG POUNCE POUNCE
> ::panting:: WELCOME!
> If you are ever at Bristol, look me up, be glad to buy you a mead.
Thank you for the most gracious pounce. Now I feel like it's official. (I was beginning to fear nobody would do it.)
-Butterfly Bill
From: Josephine Marie Thane
I'll reply to both groups, what the heck. Not that I even lurk on AFC.....
Butterfly Bill wrote (with much snippage for brevity):
> This is my first post ever to alt.fairs.renaissance. I have been lurking for a few years, but have never felt I had much to say, not being a vendor or performer or any more of a participant than a once a season patron. But I still read this group because it is one of the most delightfully flame-free groups I have read, and it quite possibly has more posts beginning with OT than any other outside of alt.fashion. (It also has not possibly but definitely the longest sig files in Usenetdom.) I like the way you treat each other and the easy way you share your feelings, and I feel this same vibe interacting with you all in real (Faire) life.
Welcome to un-lurk-dom. Hope you "come out" more often (pun intended, of course). :-)
> Well, I finally attended Faire in garb yesterday - but not in a way most people do it. As my name implies, I am male, my height is six feet even, and I have a construction workers physique. But today at the Kansas City Faire I finally did what I had been wanting to do for the last four years, and now was at a moment when I had the money to do it, even if it was crazy by all my otherwise normal standards. I went into Heart's Delight and spent $200 and change on a complete peasant class woman's outfit - lavender chemise, aqua blue underskirt, bodice in a delicate pink rose pattern on a blue and teal background, and a muffin cap in a darker lavender.
And it looked nice and you wore it well.
> While being fitted for the bodice, another woman customer in the store asked me if I had boobs, and I answered no, but I've got pectorals. The saleslady went on to add about how there is still a fleshy part to them that can be formed, all in a matter of fact tone like I was not the first male customer she had served.
You're not. No doubt about it.
> I am a totally out cross dresser in the mundane world, and I go about town on normal errands in skirts and dresses, and I had been coming to the KC Faire in mundane drag for a few years. (I've been immune to any comedy act that would drag me onto stage and make me put on pink tutus or such while the rest of the audience jeered.) I was in an ultramodern mundane red tank top and ankle length rayon dress when I first came thru the gate.
And that looked nice. My bandmate liked the beadwork at the neckline on that.
> I was encouraged earlier in the morning by the example of the hammered dulcimer player for Minstrosity, who performed in an Irish woman's outfit with a green bodice and a plaid shawl over his shoulder. (Probably I should say her, I gathered from the liner notes of their CD that this person is transexual and transitioned.)
Irish? Well, OK, I guess, but I'm actually half-Scot, and the plaid was the Campbell of Argyll tartan. And granted I was wearing a leine, which is more associated with Irish. But the plaid was worn in the style of a Scots arisade.
Yes, I am the hammered dulcimer player (and bowed psaltery, and recorders - oh, yeah, and I sing, too). I am indeed an out, transitioned transsexual (pre-op) and prefer female pronouns. Thank you for noticing, though. At this point, many don't notice I used to be male.
And for anyone taking bets as to when I took off the arisade, whoever put money on "not until after closing gate" wins. :-)
Again, welcome to the madness that is AFR. I don't have the address for the AFR FAQ handy, but it keeps popping up, so keep your eyes peeled.
And for those on AFC, here's one of those long sig files Bill mentioned. And I have to tell you that a few months ago, I cut this down by about half......
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Josephine Marie Thane
Minstrosity
Official AFR Bio Ring Page
IWG #870, Madame
Bard #122
Rapidus Deportus Mars of Sarcastica. She who stood on rocky shores and kept the beaches whiskey free.
High Priestess to the Goddess of Love, Carnivorous Acquirer of Forgotten Readiness and Sensitive Traveler of Eros' Precepts.
"Soylens viridis homines est."
From: Josephine Marie Thane
"R.L.Warflight" wrote:
> That would be Josephine, and no fyner, nor generous a lady you will find elsewhere!
> I only know her from corespondance, and a rather large favor she did for me a while back.... no fyner a friend could be made.
::blush:: Aw, gee......
Thank you.
--
Josephine Marie Thane
Minstrosity
Official AFR Bio Ring Page
IWG #870, Madame
Bard #122
Rapidus Deportus Mars of Sarcastica. She who stood on rocky shores and kept the beaches whiskey free.
High Priestess to the Goddess of Love, Carnivorous Acquirer of Forgotten Readiness and Sensitive Traveler of Eros' Precepts.
"Soylens viridis homines est."
From: Danicia de Lontra
k c says...
>Two male _members_, eh? Oh, my... And to think previously I just admired you for your color sense....
::gigglesnort:::
Um...yeah....::giggle::
And thanks ::curtsies:::
Danicia de Lontra, Queen of AssuageDOM
IWG #307, MCL, Local Madame, MDRF-Local #42 http://www.mdrfwench.org
Bard #11, Merc #404.."Merc Not Found"
AIM: Gothywench, ICQ #5596090 http://www.danicia.com
My AFR BIO Page: http://www.danicia.com/afrbioring.htm
From: "mark deering"
Butterfly Bill,
I didn't reply earlier because I was at Northern for 3day. Welcome to our little home away from home. One of the things I love about this group and it's people is that they except everyone, with a smile and a hug. I love these people, they are great. Welcome.
--
Kat
Lady Sarah Sheffelde
We may not have it all together......But together we have it all.
Wench #1698
High Priestess to the Goddess of Love, Perpetual Seer of Floral Unconditionality and Candied Hoper of Soulful Violets.
"Mistress Violet"
From: "Butterfly Bill"
I am joyfully overwhelmed by all the loving replies that I got to my first post, and I want to thank you all, including those who emailed me privately with answers to the beard "problem". I'll say again that this is the most affectionate and flame free newsgroup I have ever read.
I especially want to thank those of you who sent your post also to alt.fashion.crossdressing. Many who post there, and I'm sure many more lurkers, are deep in the closet - and those of us who are out are repeatedly trying to tell them that they can come out and just do it, that they don't have to pass (CD talk for disguising yourself so well that everyone thinks you're really a woman). We try to relate our own experiences of being out, but I suspect that many of the closeted don't really believe us. The unmistaken and unsolicited testimony of so many of you (especially comments like Hellen Yrth's "I personally love to see men running around in women's clothes- so this post makes me particularly happy. :)" ) I'm sure helped our cause well.
Josephine, is your band doing the whole run of KCRF? And are you a Madame, and can you find the two others I need to become a wench?
-Butterfly Bill
homepage:
http://www.grapevine.net/~butterflybill/BB.htm
music on mp3.com:
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(omigod, I'm starting to get a sig file already!)
From: warfli...(R.L.Warflight)
In article <meKl7.107$3E6.80... "Butterfly Bill"
writes:
>I'll say again that this is the most affectionate and flame free newsgroup I have ever read.
Well... that's mostly because there's a wee bunch o Scots here, and as ye know, we hadna invented fire yet.....
Warflight
ITFC#0059
Guild of the "Broken Pipe" (We'll pass the pipe 'til it's too short to pass again)
"No officer, it's Tobacco! 'Pipe-Weed' is just a name"
Stupid stupid Rat Creatures!
Remember... you are unique! Just like everyone else!
From: Josephine Marie Thane
Butterfly Bill wrote (after much snippage on my part):
> Josephine, is your band doing the whole run of KCRF?
Yes.
> And are you a Madame, and can you find the two others I need to become a wench?
I am a Madame (sez so in the sigfile). Can I find the two others? I know that Wendy (yes, my bandmate) is a Madame cum Laude (the highest rank), but you will have to ask her yourself. Can I find another one? No.
You see, rank depends more on how many years of Faire you have under your belt than how long you've been a member of IWG. I've not been a member that long, but this is my eighth year of Faire. And I don't know the ranking of the other Wenches at KCRF.
--
Josephine Marie Thane
Minstrosity
Official AFR Bio Ring Page
IWG #870, Madame
Bard #122
Rapidus Deportus Mars of Sarcastica. She who stood on rocky shores and kept the beaches whiskey free.
High Priestess to the Goddess of Love, Carnivorous Acquirer of Forgotten Readiness and Sensitive Traveler of Eros' Precepts.
"Soylens viridis homines est."
From: Danicia de Lontra
Bill,
Actually....if you are in KC, you would belong to one Local, but you mentioned living in NC, so that would be different. I'll write up that email to you today.
Thanks!
Dani
Danicia de Lontra, Queen of AssuageDOM
IWG #307, MCL, Local Madame, MDRF-Local #42 http://www.mdrfwench.org
Bard #11, Merc #404.."Merc Not Found"
AIM: Gothywench, ICQ #5596090 http://www.danicia.com
My AFR BIO Page: http://www.danicia.com/afrbioring.htm
From: "Rikki Ward"
Butterfly Bill news:XPNk7.596$B%3.124773@newsfeed.slurp.net > (This is being crossposted to alt.fashion.crossdressing, where I am a familiar name. Change your header if you only want to reply to one group.) Normally I am very wary of cross postings, but this one is inspired, and inspirational. Many thanks, Bill, for originality of subject and an interesting post. Perhaps it will encourage more trannies to get out and about in a safe and accepting environment. I'm sorry I'm the wrong side of the Atlantic and cannot attend. :-( Still I am accepted for being me by friends :-) Rikki